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Meme of the Week: Ellen Willis (I)

Posted by s woods on May 19, 2011

A sampling (not comprehensive, possibly more to come, etc.) of critical responses to Out of the Vinyl Deeps, the new Ellen Willis anthology, interjected on occasion with a few thoughts from yours truly as one possible way of overcoming the perpetual writers block which has thus far prevented me from laying down my own actual thoughts on the thing:

  • Ken Tucker, Entertainment Weekly: “Willis writes with a directness and utter lack of fan gush, and her observations sound as fresh, as appropriate to the present music scene, as they did decades ago. Her 1971 criticism of pop music’s tendency toward ‘a tedious worship of technical proficiency’ is as apt now about ‘American Idol’ and The Voiceas it was then.” (Hmm, I’d quibble a nibble re: her “utter lack of fan gush”; rather, I’d suggest that her gushing — which, granted, is far from her signature style — doesn’t cancel her hard-as-nails critique. I might even suggest that when it does rear its head it actually enhances it.)
  • In The Rest is Noise, Alex Ross, after quoting Willis on Dylan, writes: “What’s wonderful about this passage is that Willis expresses admiration for her subject without coming anywhere near idolatry. Indeed, she frames him in a feminist perspective that might make a lot of male rock fans uncomfortable. Yet she doesn’t take him to pieces, either. She simply sees right through him. The political-cultural insight is indivisible from the lyrical-musical insight.” (“Admiration for her subject without coming anywhere near idolatry…” Again, I’m struggling a bit with that. “Idolatry,” I sort of get, though only if you limit the word “idolatry” to people. In other words, it’s true that Willis never comes across as merely idolizing Dylan and Lou Reed — but is she not entirely enraptured by the best of their work? Maybe I’d be more accepting of “idolatry” here if it were preceded by the word “blind” or “thoughtless” — in short, yes, I’m being extremely nitpicky. “Admiration,” on the other hand, just does not suffice. Maybe it’s me, but I don’t come away reading Willis on Dylan or the Velvets or Creedence with the sense that she simply “admires” their work; there’s far more passion in her critique than that, no?)

  • Some good thoughts on Willis’s “easy voice” by Julianne Escobedo Shepherd: “Out of the Vinyl Deeps: Ellen Willis on Rock Music… is a revelation, both for her staunchly feminist viewpoint and for the sheer pleasure of reading her work. She writes with a cogent intellectual urgency, yet balances it with an easy voice that is utterly open and congenial. The most important trait for any cultural critic is that the reader gets the sense they’re being honest, and truthfulness is one of Willis’s greatest strengths. Whereas some music critics write like they want to impose their opinion, Willis wrote like she wanted to have a conversation.”

  • Nitsuh Abebe in his “Why We Fight” column in Pitchfork: “It’s also that she writes about shows, nights out, and conversations; about dancing in her apartment, talking over Bowie, and watching people throw paper at one another before a Who show. In one column, she deploys the following (weirdly thrilling) sentence: ‘The concert was fun.’ The overall effect is as if you’d spent these years abroad and out of touch, periodically receiving boxes of vinyl — and passionate, luminous letters about the music inside — from the friend you used to obsess over records with before you left.”

  • In NPR, Ann Powers makes similar observations: “Most important, Willis wrote like someone who lived in a body. Her reviews are peppered with scenes of her standing on theater seats, dancing in her bedroom, or having a flash of insight while waiting for her clothes at the laundromat. She wrote about laughing, and having doubts… Willis made sure her mental footwork was easy to follow, and that’s what makes Out of the Vinyl Deeps so relevant. Post-Internet, everybody’s a critic, but the best writers know that what matters isn’t showing off, but starting a conversation that feels relevant and real. Pick up her book, and you just might discover a voice you’ve been ready to love for years.”

  • Sasha Frere-Jones, who writes the foreword to the book, engages in a Q&A about Willis: “No other pop critic has ever seemed so unbiddable. There was no ‘liking’ a performer or an album — everything on the table was an idea or a feeling or project that Willis wanted to measure, to assess which bits worked and which didn’t. The variables were of more interest to her than the people or the recordings. I never found that cold; I found it liberating. The ecstatic feelings music gave me were never going to make their way onto a piece of paper.” (Hmm, similar to what Ross and Tucker are saying above, that last line loses me, though partly it loses me because I’m not certain if Frere-Jones is suggesting that that is Willis’s modus operandi, or his own. Regardless, getting your “ecstatic feelings” “onto a piece of paper” — um, that’s kind of my definition of one of the things all great criticism does.) (And actually, on a similar note, one thing I noticed while reading OOTVD — and should have taken a proper tally of — was Willis’s propensity to use drug metaphors to describe her personal experiences with and feelings about rock, i.e., she would sometimes note that certain shows or records made her feel “high.”)

  • A terrific quote about Willis, which Frere-Jones puts in his foreword to the book (and which praises the “ecstatic” bent of E.W.’s work!). The quote is from Willis’s longtime friend, Karen Durbin: “Ellen was that wondrous creature, an intellectual who deeply valued sensuality, which is why she wrote with such insight about rock and roll but also with such love. She respected the sensual; in a fundamentally puritanical culture, she honored it. She saw how it could be a path to transcendence and liberation, especially for women, who, when we came out into the world in the early to midsixties, were relentlessly sexualized and just as relentlessly shamed. Rock and roll broke that chain: it was the place where we could be sexual and ecstatic about it. Our lives were saved by that fine, fine music, and that’s a fact.”

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Meme of the Day: Lester Bangs Wannabes & Imitators

Posted by s woods on October 9, 2009

  • “The question [Bruce] Sterling brings up here has nagged Bangs-the-original and Bangs-wannabes since the first rush wore off: It’s got a good beat and I can dance to it, but is it art?”
    - Ray Davis
  • “Too many [Pitchfork writers] are Lester Bangs wannabes, though each has less than half of Bangs’ talent for being interesting while not actually talking about music.”
    - miguelsanchez
  • “Though [Chuck Eddy's] Lester Bangs wannabe style is slightly interesting, as a guide to picking music this guy is strictly an amateur who I can’t take seriously.”
    - Amazon customer review of Stairway to Hell
  • “For nearly twenty years, the word ‘indie’ has been used by record company executives and pseudo-intellectual Lester Bangs wannabes, to the point that it’s lost all meaning. Since the term was originally used to describe punk rock, ‘indie’ should apply to all of its diminutive forms, but it doesn’t.”
    - samhuddy, What is Indie
  • “IMHO, it’s populated by a bunch of how’s-my-hair Lester Bangs wannabes who are better qualified to write reviews of the latest slim-cut jeans.”
    - VicAjax on Pitchfork‘s decade-end list
  • “This Chicago-based online apparel store relies upon the collective creativity of its diehard members to produce quirky t-shirt designs. The ‘Music Snob’ tee name-checks faux music genres (children’s hardcore or Dixieland techno, anyone?) that’ll trick any Lester Bangs wannabe.”
    - Rea McNamara, Gifts that Click (Eye Weekly)
  • “I’m not confused like you, twit
    You Lester Bangs wannabe
    There’s something wrong with you
    There’s nothing wrong with me
    There’s nothing wrong with me”
    - Lyrics to Of Montreal’s “There is Nothing Wrong With Hating Rock Critics
  • “United States Representative Thaddeus G. McCotter (MI) is Chair of the Republican House Policy Committee and a Lester Bangs Wannabe
    - A Health Dirge Night: President Obama’s Lefty Health Club Band (Must click link to see best doctored Sgt. Pepper cover ever)
  • “Quite frankly, who needs us anymore? Do you honestly need to follow a Lester Bangs wannabe to tell you what’s cool when the entirety of music history is immediately available on Myspace, Wikipedia and your average MP3 blog?”
    - Impboy, message on Boing Boing post
  • “I could make up some metaphors involving edged weapons to describe the guitar work of John Reis and Rick Froberg, and some bludgeoning similes to express the crashing assault of Gar Wood’s bass and Mario Rubalcaba’s drums. But I’d just come off looking like a Lester Bangs wannabe, and quite frankly, what’s the point when I could just repeat what I said about the Camden Underworld gig and be done with it – Hot Snakes kick the shit out nearly every punk rock band you’ll see this year.”
    - Nick Cowen review of Hot Snakes
  • “In short, we’re fans and collectors (well, I’m the collector) who like to pass along information about the artists we enjoy. We’re not Lester Bangs wannabes out to shock and awe, and we’re not too-cool-for-school music snobs that lambaste everything in sight. There are plenty of sites that nitpick musicians and authors, so we’ll let them do their thing, and we’ll keep doing ours.”
    - “On Negative Reviews and Turkish Rap
  • “As a wannabe Lester Bangs for the teen section of the local paper, I kept my feet still, listening for the beat. Roth, too, remained steady, his neck grooving slowly with the rhythm, his lips softly mouthing along the words. ‘Isn’t this amazing?’ squealed the girl next to me. I nodded. This was good.”
    - Robert Costa, “Asher Agonistes: The Suburban Rise of Asher Roth” (PopMatters)
  • “Morthland, for one, disagreed with my assessment of modern rock critics being sorry Lester Bangs imitators; he said the imitation was much more prominent in the 1970′s, when there was less of an established tradition. ‘It’s really common for rock critics of the last couple decades to say they were heavily influenced by Lester, tho’ I’ll be damned if I can see it in their writing.’”
    - “The Ghost of Lester Bangs“, by Ethan Stanislawski (Perfect Sound Forever)
  • “I am always perplexed by the fact that, whenever anyone weighs in on Lester Bangs, they feel the need to do a horrible Lester Bangs imitation. While it appears Mr. Leonard has been doing yeoman’s work covering the many different ways the Man is trying to keep you from your Internet, both his style and his interests seem out of synch with commenting effectively on L. Bangs, particularly a work of essentially speculative fiction on the subject of L. Bangs and what he might think of music today.”
    - Squiny McGuinty, “The New Ships
  • “And while there have been plenty of Bangs imitators over the years, Let It Blurt proves that there was only one Lester, whose stream-of-consciousness gonzo humor and drug- and drink-fueled prose was balanced by a rare thoughtfulness.”
    - Jim Walsh, Blurt review

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Meme of the Day: Trying to Forget Your Generation (Part 1)

Posted by s woods on September 1, 2009

“Anyone unlucky enough not to have been aged between 14 and 30 during 1966-67 will never know the excitement of those years in popular culture.”
- Ian MacDonald, Revolution in the Head (quoted here)

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“I thought, ‘If I don’t write this book, who is going to write this book?’ Who’s going to put something out there that puts the lie to the assumption of the older generation of rock critic[s]: Greil Marcus, or Christgau? I took it easy on Christgau because at least he was in the game reviewing records. But I think that whole generation’s assumption was, ‘Well this is a nice underground play pen that these kids have.’”
- Joe Carducci, Perfect Sound Forever interview

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“Generations suck, as does anybody who believes in, belongs to, defines, compares, nicknames, inspires, or speaks for them. Generational essentialism is as dumb now as it was in the ‘60s, and if the word ‘twenty-something’ appears once in this poll, I’m going to start calling up rock critics and playing ‘Season of the Witch’ into their answering machine.”
- Rob Sheffield, 1993 Pazz & Jop Critics Poll (Village Voice)

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“That the Election of Bill Clinton coincides with the erosion of Bruce Springsteen’s mass appeal underscores just how far our political culture lags behind that of our pop music. The Clinton-Gore victory is supposed to signal, finally, the assumption of power by the baby boom generation. But in pop, boomer culture is already waning into obsolescence.”
- Derek Richardson, 1992 Pazz & Jop Critics Poll

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“Baby freaks who enjoy the music of the Fleet Foxes and Devendra Banhart, grow their own tomatoes, rock woolly beards and retreat to the desert for vision quests don’t feel the need to rebel against their elders at all. Such a warm embrace of their legacy may not be something the golden children of the 1960s expected, but I’m sure they’re happy for the dissolution of that generational divide.”
- Ann Powers, “Who Cares About ‘My Generation’ Anymore?

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“I’ve often argued that boomers’ arrogant claim to own youth culture made it hard for subsequent generations to create a culture of their own. Even though I am a boomer myself, I found this problematic. What Ann is suggesting (and it’s nothing my own kids haven’t tried to explain to me) is that today’s generation finds value in connecting to ‘their elders’ … they don’t feel the need to rebel [against their elders]. Which, if true, and I have a suspicion she’s onto something, means that what boomers ‘own’ isn’t youth culture, but rather the adolescent need to rebel. That need, which so many of us never abandon, is what identifies boomers as a generation that refuses to grow up.”
- Steven Rubio, “woodstock, or, b-legit meets daryl hall

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“When will the ‘70s critics hang it up? And the ’80s generation – re: Cosloy and Albini and the rest of their angry young fanzine-bred ilk – are really no better. I swear they like music just because it’s bad, or offensive, or noisy, or outrageous/racist/sexist. That’s pathetic.”
- Tim Sommer, 1986 Pazz & Jop Critics Poll

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“When Tim says the ’70s critics should bow out, my response is, ‘I guess I don’t have to worry – I’m a ’60s critic.’ I don’t know who he’s talking about when he said that – I really don’t. There’s another thing, too, to get obnoxious about it for a moment. People will stop reading me and Bob and Dave and people of that ilk – if that is an ilk – when other people come along with better ideas, a more intriguing writing style, more stamina, and more commitment to the subject matter. There’s nothing surprising about that.”
- Greil Marcus, 1986 Nerve interview

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“And pop music’s not just an adolescent concern any more, although it’s still dominated by adolescent discourse. It also has maturity and respect, an adult dimension, even if it tends to be on the periphery of white rock ‘n’ roll, in country music and blues. Its body is larger and its concerns substantially more adult than conventional rock ‘n’ roll mythology allows.”
- Dave Marsh, June 7, 1987 (Toronto Star interview)

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“…I despise most of the people from my generation, because they didn’t re-invest in the culture that had thrust them into prominence. Morley, Parsons, Burchill. They didn’t put anything back.”
- Jon Savage, The Vague Interview, 1988

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“Nobody else in my generation was paying any attention to [popular music]… Do you remember Dig magazine? That was fantastic. I remember in one issue they had a whole spread about haircuts, the different kinds of haircuts. My friends would come to visit me and I could talk to their kids about Dig magazine, which their parents wouldn’t let them have in the house; they had to hide it out in the garage. I used to feel real foolish, ‘cause here I was, all grown up, with kids of my own, and what the hell’s the matter with me?”
- Ralph Gleason, 1973 (“Two Critics – Gleason and Marcus) (pub. Unknown)

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Meme of the Day: Readers – Who Needs ‘em?

Posted by s woods on July 24, 2009

“I had two kinds of letters that were very encouraging. The first kind of letter was from sixty-year-old housewives saying: ‘Jesus, you know, it really isn’t all that noise I thought it was. Thank you for introducing it to me, and Simon and Garfunkel and other pleasing things.’ And the letters from young people saying: ‘My God, I can’t believe it. I never thought anyone would understand. Wow, too much!’”
- Ralph Gleason, “Two Critics – Gleason and Marcus,” 1973 (publication unknown)

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“Indeed, the professional dignity of far too many rock writers is undermined by the knowledge that they’re not serving a defined readership or building a coherent body of work. Apart from realizing, in a vague sense, that the audience is young and intellectually disengaged, no one in the field seems to know who they’re actually writing for.”
- Gavin McNett, Feed, 1998 (?) (response to Jo-Jo Dancer’s “Rock Critical List”)

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PSF: Many times during then, you’d abandon conventional reviews and go into personal narratives.  Did you ever worry that it was something of a disservice to the reader to do this?
RM: I felt it was a GIFT to the reader.  At all times, I was ADDRESSING the reader.  I wanted to help readers pull the ring from out of their nose and realize…  Burroughs is always talking about Hassan I Sabbah, who said “Nothing is written, all is permitted.”  That’s really what I was telling readers, that you do not have to accept the hand as dealt.
- Richard Meltzer, Perfect Sound Forever interview, 2000

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“In the Voice, I want to piss people off. Especially in the Voice. Since I started writing for that paper, I’ve always assumed that there’s something complacent about those readers. So yeah, I want to shock them. Besides, it’s interesting to talk about Venom in terms that somebody who reads the Voice might appreciate.”
- Chuck Eddy, Nerve interview, 1986

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“The worst kind of censorship is self-censorship. At Rolling Stone, it was very rare that Jann Wenner would actually pull something from the magazine and replace it with a positive review — it happened to happen to me, but that’s fairly rare. Far more insidious is the writer knowing, I am going to get more work if I make my editor happy, if I make the publicist happy, if I make the artist happy, the record company happy — they have this long list of people who they’re writing for. And at the very bottom of that list, if they even make it at all, is the reader.”
- Jim DeRogatis,  rockcritics.com interview, 2002

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“The source of the most harrowing, confessional feedback I get is that I do write about myself, and my own fears and hopes and epiphanies, in the course of writing about the music. Some weeks I’m much more of a diarist than a reviewer or a critic, and I think for people who want their lives and their music to mean something, my struggles sometimes resonate.”
- Glenn McDonald, rockcritics.com interview, 2001

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“When Carola met me, she was impressed by how often I got into confrontations with people on the street.”
- Robert Christgau, Salon interview, 2001

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“The [Creem] letters was always my favorite section, I wish I could tell you that we made them up, but we didn’t have to. I always was amazed how much sicker our readers were than we were.”
- Jaan Uhelszki, rockcritics.com interview, 2002

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“At the New Music Seminar one year, when I was wearing a name tag, someone came up to me and said, ‘So you’re Jon Pareles. I never agree with anything you write.’ I shook his hand and was happy to meet him. For that guy, I’m a completely reliable critic; all he had to do was take the opposite of my advice. That’s fine with me. But I’d rather have my record collection than his.”
- Jon Pareles, rockcritics.com interview, 2001

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“[Gloria] loved her readers, the young kids from small towns who were fighting the torments of puberty with 16 as their imagination’s guide and — thanks to her advice column, among other things — their lifeline.”
- Dave Marsh, obituary for Gloria Stavers, Rolling Stone, 1983

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“But frankly I don’t always know how much respect I have for the audience either – sometimes I wonder if they’re not getting exactly what they deserve. What kind of person, for instance, listens to those critics and spends good money on all that shit?”
- Lester Bangs, “We Are All Deadheads” (Music and Sound Output, April 1982)

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“There was only so much rejection of the mainstream possible if staying in business was a goal. [Trouser Press] unintentionally had a new audience — teenyboppers excited by our coverage of their faves but too young to share our sensibilities and our skepticism: one cover story on Duran Duran that attacked the band’s flaws caused howling letters of disillusionment and anger from kids who just wanted the good news on how cute they were. How could we put them on the cover and not worship them? It made sense to us — a big story is a big story, and a band is a mix of good and bad. Little did we know that no one else thought that way. These days, what serious publication dares think that way?”
- Ira Robbins, rockcritics.com interview, 2001

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PSF: So you think you were entertaining readers?
RM: Absolutely. Educating. Entertaining.  Screaming at, sounding out, etc.
- Richard Meltzer, Perfect Sound Forever interview, 2000

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“I don’t think when [Bangs] was writing, even when he was flying furthest afield, when it seemed like he was not saying anything at all about the record — when he was talking about himself — I think that eight times out of ten, the point he was making was actually profoundly fundamental to that record. He never had a disrespect for the reader to the point where… you know, Meltzer jokes about reviewing records that he never opened the shrink wrap… and that’s a fundamental disrespect to the reader. That having been said, Meltzer’s toss- offs about his bottle cap collection were probably a million times better than that Wishbone Ash record — whatever. But Meltzer has nothing but disdain for the Wishbone Ash fan, and maybe they deserve it, maybe they don’t.”
- Jim DeRogatis, rockcritics.com interview, 2002

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“I edited Creem magazine for five years, and we had, like hundreds of thousands of readers who really dug it that we were telling Dylan and the Stones and all these people to go jump in the lake. They weren’t idiots that just swallowed any hype that was shoveled to them. I really — I hate that, that everybody thinks that, that fans are just morons that’ll just swallow any garbage. ‘Cause I think the kids are really sharp. I talked to this 13 year old, he called me up the other day, he wants to write a book about Blondie that — he was right on top of it, you know?”
- Lester Bangs, 1980 (interview published in rockcritics.com)

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“If Smash Hits was basically useful, it also did its damnedest always to be interesting. Equal attention was paid to everything from the cover feature to the smallest picture caption. It was all given a character. Readers’ letters were scrutinized to discover who they wanted to read about and what they wanted to know.”
- Dave Rimmer, Like Punk Never Happened, 1985

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“When I was on Melody Maker, we always discovered that from the readers’ point of view, they were infinitely more interested in news and reviews and upcoming concerts than they were in think pieces. People would read about artists that they were interested in. It was unclear whether they were interested in reading intellectual think pieces about the state of music. I suspect think pieces about music would have to be considered more along the lines of think pieces about other art forms rather than in the context of rock journalism. In other words, if you take a good think piece journalist like Bob Christgau in the Voice, he would be read alongside other pieces about literature or art or theatre.”
- Simon Frith, Perfect Sound Forever interview, 2002

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“Magazines perform a range of specific mediating functions. Reviews of recent record releases connect the audience to the music by letting its members know which recordings have recently been released and which ones they might like. These reviews also connect the audience to itself, expressing its musical standards and values. For a pop audience criticism is irrelevant, but for a subculture, such as metal’s, the values expressed in the reviews are of great significance. Criticism also connects the musicians to their audience, affirming, clarifying, and applying the standards that they share.”
- Deena Weinstein, Heavy Metal: The Music and Its Culture, 1991

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“Good rock critics, by and large, don’t honor the boundary between classroom and hallway. This puts us at odds with most editors-in-chief, department heads, and those horrible people, the readers. The rules have no intellectual validity; we’re not following them; and the reader who wants reassurance through us that he’s smart isn’t going to get it from us in the standard way, and the reader who wants reassurance from us that he’s real isn’t going to get it either.”
- Frank Kogan, “Democratizing the Intellect,” in Don’t Stop ‘til You Get Enough: Essays in Honor of Robert Christgau, 2002

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“I can’t avoid my readership. They’re here, and I talk to them and I run their letters, many of which say ‘Dear Moron…’ I want to have that conversation. I think that’s the thing that’s missing in the New York media establishment. I know, because I’ve talked to those people. They don’t give a shit, they don’t know who they’re writing for. They’re writing for each other. They’re writing to further their career, and they’re writing to impress each other, and they don’t know who’s reading their copy.”
- Jim DeRogatis, interview with Mark Athitakis, 1998

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“One thing that a lot of rock critics do when they start out is they start writing for other rock critics… And I find with young writers, there’s this kind of impulse to show what you can do and to show that you own a copy of…the Beastie Boys’ ‘Cookie Puss’ EP, or that you really know something about the MC5 and that you can really draw a line between them and a new Detroit band. In doing that, people forget that they need to connect with a reader. There’s somebody who actually just cares about music, who might not be a rock criticism fan, who’s picking up an issue of Rolling Stone, Spin or Blender, and really just wants to find out what something sounds like and whether it’s worth checking out.”
- Nathan Brackett, rockcritics.com interview, 2002

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“But more than anything we want you to tell us what you think. Too often music criticism is a one-way street, with critics sitting on high and decreeing tastes and trends as they see fit. We have no interest in being tastemakers — we’re not cool enough for that, for a start. And so we open up every review, article, column and blog post on Stylus to your comments.”
- “Stylus Magazine Mission Statement” 2001

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“To Gloria, readers were just as important as stars.”
- Danny Fields, quoted in Dave Marsh’s Gloria Stavers obit, Rolling Stone, 1983

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Meme of the Day: We Gotta Get Out of This Place

Posted by s woods on July 16, 2009

“By the mid-’80s, my rock-crit colleagues were most agog over bands like R.E.M. and U2, whom I could appreciate but never felt any passion for (after punk, I could never understand the continued appeal of the great-rock-band concept). Just around the time that Robert Christgau was announcing his sensible theory of ‘semi-popular’ music, I switched over to covering the TV industry, where ‘semi-popular’ got you cancelled, and I re-discovered that I really liked writing about MASS culture, and increasingly disliked the prevailing trend in rock writing, which was: Pick a subculture (post-punk, dance, hip-hop, country, whatever), unearth the most obscure examples of it, and then write hipper-than-thou panegyrics. That wasn’t for me; I was happier using my newspaper skills to ponder ‘Seinfeld’ and eight-hour miniseries.”
- Ken Tucker (rockcritics.com interview, 2000)

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“I think I still have a sort of firehouse-dog response to music. You know, you hear the alarm go off, and you’re next to the truck with your tail wagging. If a song or performer catches my attention, there’s nothing I like better than getting into a big, insanely detailed discussion of what’s going on in that tune or that video or that career. I’m also pretty sure that I’m smarter about music than I was when I was a critic. I hear more, and I can make a better argument for why something that sounds negligible is a good song or why one that seems sort of plausible just reeks. But I haven’t made a consistent, determined effort to keep up, and that’s fatal. It’s not just that you have to hear the records. You have to know the context, either by living it as a fan or appreciating it as a critic, and now the context has just mushroomed. More and more, you can see even working critics giving up–just saying, ‘Screw it, I’m going to go on pretending that knowing something about Paul Simon is information worth sharing with you people, because I’ll go insane if I have to wake up every morning telling myself I care which one in N’Sync is Justin.’”
- Tom Carson (rockcritics.com interview, 2002)

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“I could always recover my passion for the music every month, in some LP or other, UNTIL Creem died–it’s been more difficult since I lost my wedded-for-life journalistic outlet.”
Richard Riegel (rockcritics.com interview, 2000)

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“Let’s face it I just don’t listen to the stuff no more. Rock-related discs. Six months’ll go by between spins. I don’t play new stuff, I don’t play old stuff, I don’t even play Byrds albums for old friends sitting around drunk at 4 a.m. What I’m thinking is at last–maybe–I’m off the stuff. Which (if true) would make three loathsome habits of long duration I’ve kicked in less than a year; others were TV and Copenhagen (‘the smokeless tobacco’). What makes it a habit worth jettisoning should be obvious (some chronically self-attenuating variation on–or want of a more interesting nutshell–duh music IS repulsive, has BEEN repulsive, will forevermore BE repulsive & if not I still ain’t gonna be arount t’ notice.) All I’m listening to these days is jazz with a little occasional dub thrown in; I can’t hack voices while I’m typing and I seem to be typing the most I’ve typed since 1970 when I was not listening to rock and roll for the first or second official time (i.e., ain’t life funny).”
- Richard Meltzer, “The Minutemen (Exist)” (Village Voice) (reprinted in A Whore Just Like the Rest)

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“I had a double whammy moment, and a formal ‘drop out’ point in time that was 12/31/73. My favorite rock bands had all tanked in America (commercially)–Stooges, Slade, New York Dolls, Raspberries. Plus by that late moment in time all the rock prozines sucked–Creem and PRM [Phonograph Record Magazine] were both pretty lame by this point (PRM changed format around the end of 1973). Like a lot of other fans, I kinda thought rock music was over, kaput. So I wrote a half-page short on (Ohio hardpop-rock act, ok album on Mercury) Blue Ash in PRM‘s ‘year end roundup,’ with the distinct notion that this was the last thing I was ever gonna say re: ‘rock music’ in the prozine press, not that anyone was counting or keeping track anyway, and my comments were real negative (re: the state of ‘rock music’). Sure enough, 1974 was by far the worst year for rock music of the entire ’60s or ’70s. I became an ABBA fan and didn’t write a word in a national prozine for 25 years.”
- Mike Saunders (rockcritics.com interview, 2001)

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“Well, this could well be goodbye. I am leaning toward retirement, and at the age of 37 (for chrissakes, how come now you ask, don’t you think I feel bad enough about it as it is?), it’s about time. Time to get maybe a real full-time job and jettison adolescence. This isn’t to say all rock writers still hang on to theirs, but the percentage is kinda high, don’t you admit?”
- Stephen Hinerman, 1987 Pazz & Jop Critics Poll (Village Voice)

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“I don’t really want a job anymore where you have to think. The store has a lot of old films and foreign films. A lot of movie nuts come in and you get to talk about the movies. I couldn’t possibly go back to writing about rock. I don’t have any comparison points anymore. Nor do I care to listen to a lot of rock records to learn about them. I would not want to be in today’s music business and it would not want me in it either.”
- Paul Nelson (rockcritics.com interview, 2000)

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“I’ve been writing this column on and off since 1972 and I just decided to stop. I’ve got other things to do and I’ve said as much about Britain as I can for a while. Ever since the rise of punk, the difference between what’s happening here and what interests you there has been growing, and I’ve now lost a sense of what to write about.”
- Simon Frith, 1979 (“Letter from Britain” March ’79 issue of Creem)

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“I found writing about music… eventually I didn’t exactly run out of words, but I had a sort of exhaustion and I wanted to stop or cut right down on that. But with sport you always get a result, it happens in front of you, it’s physical, you can see it. Sport reveals character so it’s interesting to write about. The way people play a game is generally the way they are as a person and you can’t say that about music. Stan Getz made the most beautiful sound in the history of music but he was the biggest bastard God ever created and you can’t correlate the two things at all.”
- Richard Williams (rockcritics.com interview, 2002)

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“My loss of interest has more to do with me than what’s out there, which I’m sure is the usual mix of whatever’s worthwhile and what’s not.”
- Phil Dellio, 2006 interview (Everybody’s a Critic)

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“I don’t yearn for the old days nor more music assignments. It’s physically painful for me to squelch my writing style to fit some editor’s idea of useful consumer advice. I hate rating records with numbers and stars and grades. I hate lists. And the older I get, the less I care what’s on MTV. I’d rather read a book.”
- Charles M. Young (rockcritics.com interview, 2001)

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“It looked like becoming a writer was going to be easy but as it turned out I didn’t have the tenacity or focus to develop a beat and in reality I was just as interested in politics and the New Left. Bob, and also Greil, offered me a number of opportunities that could have led to full-time writing gigs. I will always be grateful but as much as I enjoyed it and as honored as I am to have been a part of something I considered then and consider now a Worthwhile Endeavor and also An Important Cultural Moment, it was a combination of things that led to me never being a full time rock critic. I suppose it was a mix of desire, opportunity, and focus. I was interested in what I was interested in and couldn’t crank it out across the spectrum. And odd as it may sound, I found working at the phone company to be more interesting than writing about pop music.”
- Tom Smucker (rockcritics.com interview, 2000)

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“I don’t see edgy rock writing but then I’m not looking for it, it could be out there. To find that kind of writing stimulating I suppose you have to care about the genre, and at the moment I’m in a lull. I hope the lull ends, but it doesn’t really matter to me if it doesn’t. It’s a wide world out there with many, many different subjects to write about. Rock was a great topic for me, but to write about it forever seems a little limiting. And unfair to the younger writers who are probably a lot more into it than I am right now.”
- Gina Arnold (rockcritics.com interview, 2001)

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“In June, I chose not to remain a full-time rock critic. I now review new records for National Public Radio’s ‘Fresh Air’ and will freelance for anyone who’ll have me. But daily newspapers are no longer interested in rock criticism, or in any arts criticism at all, really. It’s an old story but truer than ever–editors are on the side of the public-relations departments in wanting only ‘positive’ profiles of the duperstars. I’m beyond caring whether I sound bitter or out-of-touch. For now, I’ll settle for a paradox: I’ll keep on writing about the music whenever and wherever I can, even as I give up on the idea of popular criticism.”
- Ken Tucker, 1987 Pazz & Jop Critics Poll (Village Voice)

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“Well, after Creem folded, that and this other magazine I was writing for–it started out being called Rock Video, and then it ended up being called Hard Rock–I was writing for both of those, and they both went out of business within a few weeks of each other, so I kept sending a few things out to different people I thought would like them, but there was just no response at all. So I eventually started working on other things, I had a mail order business for quite a while, and even worked in a record store–you know, just stuff to make money. I’d sure like to write stuff now, but no one is exactly flocking to my door saying, ‘Oh Rick, Rick, please write stuff for us and we’ll give you money.’”
- Rick Johnson (rockcritics.com interview, 2002)

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“I did stop around 1983 or 1984 really in a way because I thought I was too old, I was about 24, 25. Then, not only did everybody else carry on, they all started inventing magazines and worked for Emap and did Smash Hits and Q and then Mojo and now The Word or whatever. Me and Ian Penman at the NME in the early ’80s used to get up to a few shenanigans and I often wonder whether the revenge on our hubris was the invention of Q and then Mojo and now the Americanisation of Uncut.”
- Paul Morley, interviewed by Peter Murphy (Official Web Site of Laura Hird)

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“Did I really give it up or am I just on extended sabbatical? I could never understand why other people gave it up. I remember interviewing Chrissie Hynde, who didn’t even want to discuss it. Then I realized she really didn’t see herself as a rock critic, it was not something she was particularly proud of, just a way of getting where she really wanted to be. I think the same was true of Patti Smith.”
- Deborah Frost (rockcritics.com interview, 2002)

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“When I ‘dropped out’ of rock criticism, it wasn’t because I felt frustrated over gender issues but because I lost interest in rock, which had slipped out of the central cultural position it occupied in that rich 60s-70s period. As U.S. rock turned hegemonic, it mattered less relative to other cultural expressions. The moment was over. To immerse oneself in writing about rock and roll struck me as a sure-fire way of missing the beat as a writer and critic. That’s why many writers, female and male, expanded their repertoire to include music and film, tv, books, art, performance, travel essays, and other cultural subjects.”
- Daisann McLane, 1992 Pazz & Jop Critics Poll (Village Voice)

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“I never wanted to go back into music full-time. Now, the further away I get from writing about it the more I listen, not that I ever didn’t listen, but I just find myself buying albums–I don’t get free records anymore–and I listen all the time, and one of the things I feel quite strongly about is that writing about sport is a lot easier than writing about music.”
- Richard Williams (rockcritics.com interview, 2002)

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“At 13, I started thinking about being a writer, with occasional interludes of wanting to be a musician or a psychologist. Now I fantasize about driving a cab. I despise the publishing business.”
- Charles M. Young (rockcritics.com interview, 2001)

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“I’m in retail, man, that’s much worse… But I didn’t go anywhere. Nobody wanted to print my writing, so that’s the reason.”
- Rick Johnson (rockcritics.com interview, 2002)

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“I realize now that a lot of what I ‘achieved’ as a writer was all for the wrong reasons. I was very wrapped up in things that did not matter at all–really, a lot of nonsense–like where my byline was appearing, how big my pieces were. Just a lot of crap, which I don’t think was especially unique to me. And I would let myself get really sucked into the little games that other screwed up people would play. There were certain editors who were always trying to promote rivalries, particularly between women.”
- Deborah Frost (rockcritics.com interview, 2002)

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“I was talking to my agent yesterday, and I said to him, ‘Do you think it’s gonna reach the point where the only thing you can sell is a celebrity biography that’s just a puff job?’ And he said, ‘I don’t know.’ You know? I sit around and wonder if maybe the best thing I could do for myself as a writer would be just to completely get away from all this stuff… I’m not gonna saw away at my violin here and try and break everybody’s heart, because like I said, I know I’ve got it easy. The fact is, I don’t have to get up in the morning and go work from 9 to 5 in a factory or something. And I do have access, and I do have a lot of things that, you know, nobody should feel sorry for me. But at the same time, everybody I know is just totally alienated and fed up and disgusted with just about everything, and I do know that most of the people in the media that are dispensing this stuff are as alienated from it as the audience is. The audience is just taking it because there’s nothing else being offered. And personally, I’m just wondering when people are gonna just say No! I refuse! I don’t want any anymore.”
- Lester Bangs (1980 interview published in rockcritics)

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Meme of the Day: It’s All About the Music, Man…

Posted by s woods on July 21, 2008

Or is it?

“I’m interested in how [music] makes me feel. If it was an early Who single, I’m interested in how that made me feel, and I a lot of other kids feel, or what about a Motown record made a lot of us dance at a particular time. But I’m more interested in how it does that musically, I think. That’s the underlying core at it. The way that the backbeat and bass line works, rather than something else. That’s how I listen to music. I listen to the notes.”
- Richard Williams, 2002

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“Little rock criticism is concerned with music, because most rock critics are less concerned with sound than sociology. This can have depressing consequences. For instance, Springsteen’s success is defined in terms of his critical cult, ‘punk’ imagery, or his dramatic stage show. Hardly anyone has discussed his inventive use of song structure (multiple bridges, for example), his extraordinary guitar effects, or the simple power of his voice.”
- Dave Marsh, 1976 ( Rolling Stone, “The Critic’s Critic”)

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“I think something else that I did which not many people, male or female, have the technical expertise as both musicians and writers to do was to really try to get inside and explain the process of making rock music and records — which is what I still call them even if now they’re really CDs or files or whatever. You know what I mean? Most rock writers are people with literary aspirations who appreciate music but really don’t understand how to do it — or else they probably would. There are people who write for guitar mags who may have some more knowledge about how to tap like Eddie Van Halen but they have even less elegance or imagination when it comes to the English language. Of course, there are just as many great rock musicians who can’t really articulate what it is that they do.”
- Deborah Frost, 2002

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“It would be better if he or she knew enough about performance practices to be able to identify specific techniques, and better still if the reviewer could follow a theme and variations, recognize basic forms of counterpoint, and identify common harmonies. Not because that sort of information belongs in every review. Rather, if the reviewer understands on a structural level what’s going on in the music, it will be that much easier for him or her to explain his or her observations to the reader — provided, of course, that he or she writes well enough to make those ideas comprehensible.”
- J.D.  Considine, 2000 

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“Periodically, I get to feeling guilty because I am a music critic — I hate the term, but I suppose it applies — who knows nothing about music. I have listened to a lot of rock and jazz, of course, and I do know a good deal about the development of American music. But I can’t read music. After several patient lessons, I am hard-pressed to detect even the simplest chord changes. I never count time. And I don’t know the first thing about harmony. (Actually, I do know the first thing — it has to do with sound waves. I don’t know the second thing.) Furthermore, I know that stuff means something to musicians, even rock musicians. Worse still, some listeners care about it too.”
- Robert Christgau, 1969 

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“For the record, I think an understanding of the basics of music theory and notation as well as an overview of Western classical history will help any pop writer. This information gives you another way to talk about tunes and performers — a significant way, but simply one among many.”
- Milo Miles, 2001

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“Most people enjoy music and have opinions on what works and what doesn’t without having any music education (just as people can enjoy novels and poetry without having studied literature). It may be useful to have some understanding of how things work technically but so far there’s no evidence that music education makes for better rock criticism — the reverse, if anything.”
- Simon Frith, 2002

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“I don’t think critics should stay away from anything. A critic should learn as much about music as possible, from any angle that seems interesting: music theory, history, psychology, literature, theater, acoustics, religion, dance, anthropology, film theory, pharmacology, economics, fashion, linguistics, electronics, sports, and all the other things that touch on music. Playing an instrument and being in a band help you appreciate what musicians have to learn, how groups make decisions and how songs feel from the inside. It’s one way, though not the only way, to understand how music works.”
- Jon Pareles, 2001

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“To evaluate rock music as music the peripherals need to be set aside. The look of a band — where they’re coming from — is musically irrelevant. The difference between good heavy metal and bad heavy metal can only be determined just as you would determine the difference between good and bad funk or country — by focusing on the music played. Bad clothes or hair is irrelevant. Even bad lyrics and hackneyed melodies though worth discussing may not tell the listener anything about the band’s ability as rock musicians.”
- Joe Carducci, 1990 (Rock and the Pop Narcotic)

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“So, contrary to the letter-writers who righteously and semi-regularly demand that Musician drop the biographical trivia and concentrate on the music, I say it cannot be done. You might as well demand that Sophocles cut the Oedipus anecdotes and concentrate on incest. Or that Shakespeare cut the Hamlet crap and get to the point about ruling class decadence. Or that Tolstoy deal with the issues of war and peace, not the personalities.”
- Charles M. Young, 1991 (Musician, “Why We Write About What We Write About” Aug. 1991)

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